As a new film coming, let's take a respective look back at the film 18 years on. It's good points, it's bad points, like dislikes, theories dead characters, missing characters, thoughts on seeing it as a kid (if applicable), the then new characters, the whole she-bang let's hear your thoughts!
I watched it again yesterday and one of the bits i also liked was when Hot Rod jumped on Galvatron in car mode and galvatron wrestled him over (still in car mode!) finishing with Hot rad transforming underneath him before the infamous Matrix bit.
[glow=blue,2,000]TF the Movie. I dunno, I mean I like watching still however, there are things that happen in it I think screwed up Transformers. But here's a random good and bad llst...
The death of Prime for one. Prime dies all the time. I mean it was dramatic and a good death but it was cheapen with all his other deaths.
The death of Starscream. While it really didn't hurt the character but after that there was no more Starscream except for his ghost. You can't get tired of Screamer.
The whole Skywarp/Scoruge/Cyclonus/Bombshell debate of who is who, kind of pointless when the show and the movie was full of animation mistakes. They why I say this is cause it seems that alot of TF fans are pretty dum and argue over petty things.
Ultra Magnus. They wrecked a awesome character. Then again maybe the fans are too hard on him, after all many TFs have been made fool of in the show time and time again and they don't recieve that much flak.
Spike is a grown up! I think thats far more realistic. I mean what father is going to let there teenaged son go off with giant robots engaged in war?
All the new characters! They are all great, however I would have made a 2nd TF show where its based in the future. Or keep it in the show and make them the Cybertron based TFs.
Galvatron. Ummm, well, this is a tough one. Casue when you have him against Megatron in the comic its cool! But if Galvatron was a completely new character, I guess it be weird to have a guy who's kinda like Megs. That and it be another Decepticon after the title of Decepticon Commander.
Scourge's Sweeps are uber cool and underrated. There the next Seekers and each one could have very unique personalities.
Unicron, super uber, nuff said! (But his origin in the show is wack as hell!)
The Matrix. The comic had one already but the movie gave it a form. I think the comic Matrix of Creation is better then the Matrix of leadership. I remember Prime needed to get the Matrix back to form a plan.... ummm, thats dodgy. And correct me if I'm wrong but its power was never explained in the movie or the show I think.
All the deaths (Except Prime and Screamer) was good as I think it must have freaked alot of us out! "OMG! They killed Ironhide! Those B******!"[/glow]
With Ultra Magnus everyone just associates him with the cartoon and movie and just because he was so poorly misrepresented in the movie (Matrix, i can't deal with that now!) but few actually mention the comic Magnus who was actually decent. I didn't partically like or hate him, there was only one leader for me, OP!!
I've also been listening to the sountrack alot, and speaking of death doing it to a great heaby instruments of destruction also really helped convey that feeling aboard the ship of WTF!! when megs & co attacked.
However, i love Dare. I think it's a great song even if you don't tie it to transformers. If you explore the words you can make you're own new deeper meanings.
[glow=blue,2,000]How could I have forgttten about the soundtrack? Its awesome for what it was and its time. Heavy Metal music kicking out and then the brand new interludes and pieces that filled in the rest. Especially the piece played when we first see Unicron. The music really raises the stakes here. I heard a rumor that they got him again for the new movie?[/glow]
WHEELIE sucked...mostly everything else was Awesome..I wish we would have seen more of the older charecters...Huffer..Sunstreaker..Trailbreaker..Mirage..HOUND!..and some of the others like COSMOS and Beachcomber and cast...all the Season One Characters were pretty much No-Shows... I wish they would of explained how SPike's Dad dies and also the infamous dead Autoot Arcee and Springer encounter... The Weird Al song ..I didnt like..also I think that the TF movie is a cla$$ic and I hope the new one is just as good!
I wish we would have seen more of the older charecters...Huffer..Sunstreaker..Trailbreaker..Mirage..HOUND!..and some of the others like COSMOS and Beachcomber and cast...
I wish we could've seen somthing of Trailbreaker he was one of the main ones up their with prowl, ironhide, ratchet etc.
We had a blink and you miss it grapple, track's feet (running across the battle field), blink and you miss him one time only offer snarl (That annoyed me, there's always been 5 not 4 dinobots), and sideswipe - sorely missed!
Post by Rainstorm & Squirtle on Jan 1, 2005 14:05:41 GMT -5
I despise certain areas.
Like people have said the 4/5 Dinobots. Animation errors like Skywarp and co at Starscreams coronation and the Insecticons on Junk. Also it gavce us Springer, damned chump.
What I liked.
Everything. Music, animation, characters. I like Magnus in the movie, my only complaint is that Rodimus stole his gig in Season 3. Butr his comic incarnation was truly awesome, he should have stayed dead buried in the volcano though.
What I would change.
The reformatting discussion to close it once and for all.
Yeah lots of mistakes in this movie.All g1 characters get killed off.Grapple is seen on the battle field with blaster. Also If you look at the scene before we see blaster say "Look out shout!" We see seekers and decepticons fly around autobot city.Ironhide is seen flying around past the screen.Also shockwave is seen and it is his only appearance in the battle. My thereory is Sunstreaker probally dies optimuses ship is attacked after optimus leaves and hound and sunstreaker try to escape but devastator grabs them and throws them into the river.The ship explodes.As for huffer,bluestreak,mirage those guys probally get blown up by blitzwing after there road work. The rest of the g1 characters probally die when they are in a building near autobot city, it gets blown up by the seekers.
Yeah i loved G1, (It and BW are my two top favs) but i prefer G1 prior to movie.
I agree with Rainy in that if i changed anything i would fix the Reformating so we know for sure whom becomes who out of Thundercracker, Skywarp and the Insecticons.
I will also fix so that we know what happens to all the orignal G1 charcters we know that died. Liek for example there are a few G1 characters dead on the Season 3 eps where Optimus Prime comes back from the dead on the autobot Crypt, that we don't know who died.
Post by Rainstorm & Squirtle on Jan 3, 2005 16:41:01 GMT -5
Yeah some conclusions to other season 1 & 2 characters would be nice. Even if they do survive and are simply brushed away post movei would be ok. Just to see them at the battle and not afterwards is crazy.
I love the Dark Awakening ep though and in some ways wish Prime had not come back after that, it was a truly fitting (second) end ot a class character. Plus we got to see Prime and Hotrod go at it with the obvious result
[glow=blue,2,000]Very true, very sad and tragic. Actually how those two human scientists got him out before he went into the sun was wack. It reminds me of the story when Impactor came back only to die again.
You know one good point is, when they got shot, they really got shot! Instead of this laser bounce off armor crap. I mean Starscream took a direct hit in MTMTE in the 3rd chapter and survived.[/glow] "Extinction to all Traitors!"
Hoist: Hmm, I'm guessing nothing to do with Beast Wars or Armada, so either a sequel based in or around the first renegade rp trilogy or War For Cybertron? I'm guessing War For Cybertron!
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