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Post by Hoist on Nov 6, 2007 6:54:14 GMT -5
With SImon Furman bring more news out about Arcee's spotlight in the comic genre of Transformers, it's made me wonder is there a place for female robots in Transformers? Aren't they supposed to be robots without gender?
As we know, Arcee wasn't the first female Transformer, even as far back as the G1 carttons we had in one episode Elita1, but why? You could argue why do all of them have male voice mostly in the cartoon, but again that's just voice acting.
One argument could be that when the first Autobotss travelled to Earth they didn't know how to distinguish the difference between male and female carbon-based life-forms and created them to get to understand this. Although there were supposedly (Elita-1|) femmebots already, but this is the carttons, and therefore can't be considered canon.
What do you think of the rise of more female transformers yeh or neh. is it right? What are the positive (Getting more of the opposite gender into Transformers) or negative effects? (They're suposed to be autonomis robots sentient beings yes but all the same..)
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Post by Onix Solo on Nov 6, 2007 9:48:43 GMT -5
well, I've never been fond of the whole "transformers were built" aspect of it. nor have i ever been fond of them being "robotic" in nature when it came to feelings. so, with those things, i think fembots are just fine. I cant explain how more transformers would come into being or anything but.........
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Post by shadowstalker on Nov 6, 2007 11:14:08 GMT -5
I like the idea of Femmebots.........for the toylines and for fanbase. Whats the big deal?
And to be honest........I would have preferred Arcee to have been in the 07 Movie.Just aslong as she was a warrior..........Hell in a evil Femmebot would have been kewl.
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Post by cyclonus on Nov 6, 2007 11:37:22 GMT -5
Blackarachnia was an evil femmebot in Beast Wars, wasn't she? Anyways, I think femmebots would be too emotional. Women can get emotional, but, if they're warriors, fine.
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Post by Onix Solo on Nov 6, 2007 13:58:17 GMT -5
Blackarachnia was an evil femmebot in Beast Wars, wasn't she? Anyways, I think femmebots would be too emotional. Women can get emotional, but, if they're warriors, fine. yeah blackarachnia was evil, then good, but still bad. as for fembots being to emotianal, they ain't humans........ i heard they left arcee out because she didnt serve any purpose to the story and the only thing she was going to be used for was the motorcycle scene in the final battle.
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Post by LK on Nov 6, 2007 14:03:07 GMT -5
I don't like to think of the Transformers as being androgynous -- gendered all the way for me, lol. So yeah, fembots all the way. Plus, they're pretty awesome in G1; I mean, Elita-1 did catch a missile with one hand and throw it back to the shooter in one episode. It's also fun to think about TF romance as well. :P
Dunno what to think about the comics though, since I hardly go to the comic store nowadays and read them. And wait, is Arcee gonna be in the 2007 sequel or not? I thought she was.
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Post by cyclonus on Nov 6, 2007 14:47:32 GMT -5
Elita 1 was Optimus' girlfriend before he was chosen Autobot leader. His name was Orion Pax, and Elita's name was Ariel before it was Elita 1.
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Post by Hoist on Nov 6, 2007 14:51:22 GMT -5
I don't see what all the big fuss was over having Arcee in the movie anyway. The question is why do we need female/male Transformers when they're not human, even if they are sentient and have feelings. I'm with the whole Transformers being built by other transformers Onix, and can only be given life by Primus or the creation matrix, personally. On the plus, Black Arachnia in my opinion was the best of the femmebbots period, and to this day.
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Post by cyclonus on Nov 6, 2007 16:28:11 GMT -5
I never saw Beast Wars, so I don't know.
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Post by shadowstalker on Nov 6, 2007 16:45:24 GMT -5
I think it was and is a good idea to have male and female Transformers..........
Now I 100% agree with Transformers being built.
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Post by Onix Solo on Nov 6, 2007 17:27:44 GMT -5
i dont like built transformers. never have, i like how the movie did it. just like how in the movie they can have things that cant be fixed as with bumblebee's vocals.
i like to think of them as natural beings not artificial. and if they were built, they would be artificial.
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Post by cyclonus on Nov 6, 2007 19:05:52 GMT -5
Yeah, HA. BB's voice is British, like a butler.
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Post by Onix Solo on Nov 6, 2007 19:55:38 GMT -5
the heck are you responding too? who said anything about BB?
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Post by cyclonus on Nov 6, 2007 20:08:41 GMT -5
You said something about BB's voice healing up.
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Post by LK on Nov 6, 2007 21:36:14 GMT -5
The idea of having Transformers built and given life from Vector Sigma and/or Primus is a very interesting concept indeed. But I'd also like to think that the mechs had a sort of childhood, y'know? It's a fun thing to discuss about anyway. It's like a 'The world may never knoooww' deal. And Barricade, I knew about that Orion Pax-Ariel thing, but even know, wouldn't Elita-1 still basically be OP's girlfriend of some sort? I mean, even though he DID leave her for 4 million years and died a couple hundred times in every spin-off ever created, they never actually broke up, lol.
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