Post by Hoist on Dec 7, 2021 11:35:10 GMT -5
This comes from this video:
Fiurst off I will start of by staying there are things I agree, with, things I don't agree with. By "Re-writing" with the context of this video however, it basically is ergo "re-writing = G1ing everything + just re-using lots of ideas for cartoons." and being quite blatant/not even pretending to hide the fact. The fact is it eas never.supposed.to.be.a.G1.movie. Ever. Even using photoshopped Bayformers in G1 colors to make points. G1-afying everything doesn't just solve a boat load of problems just because you don't like some of the changes. There aren/t many original ideas in this video (Hence the borrowing so much from catooons) and that is the problemn hence it's bot actually "re-writing it" just putting a band aid over it.
What I agree with: That said, there is stuff I agree with like it's more to do with lack of plot, lack of character development both human and transformers and one dimensional characters. I do agree that Soundwave from the getgo might've been a better choice over Blackout and a rave picking at humans over whatever that things was that was meant to be Scorponok, but again this is not a G1 movie. Bay isn't one that's going to care about continuity, lore or the past, we get some nods via certain lines, but Bay just cares about making action films, explosions and making money at the end of the day, plot, rich characters/ones that aren't one dimensional Bay isn't something Bay is exactly known for.B
Likewise I do think we could have done without the hackers and Bumblebee leaking over Agent Simmons part, the latter of which was juvinelle. I'm suprised there wasn't fart humor in there too. The things is this, it doesn't suprise me at the same time that it was in there as this was also gear to to and bring in new fans. Yes loyal or long-time fans follow the new series, comics etc but this DID have to appeal to a newer generation as well. I do think you could loose the hackers and nothing too much would be lost. I can also understand Optimus wanted to lead the fight away from the humans, but in this showcase video above a fight in a field compare to Mission City, well; it just isn't quite as exciting appealing. (Done better in ROTF forest fight, but that was because of the fight not the setting.)
Introducing TF characters with little or no development and killing them either in the next film - or even the same film is another Bay trait. Just like paper thin human characters.
Anyway what would you change or do differently in the first movie?
Fiurst off I will start of by staying there are things I agree, with, things I don't agree with. By "Re-writing" with the context of this video however, it basically is ergo "re-writing = G1ing everything + just re-using lots of ideas for cartoons." and being quite blatant/not even pretending to hide the fact. The fact is it eas never.supposed.to.be.a.G1.movie. Ever. Even using photoshopped Bayformers in G1 colors to make points. G1-afying everything doesn't just solve a boat load of problems just because you don't like some of the changes. There aren/t many original ideas in this video (Hence the borrowing so much from catooons) and that is the problemn hence it's bot actually "re-writing it" just putting a band aid over it.
What I agree with: That said, there is stuff I agree with like it's more to do with lack of plot, lack of character development both human and transformers and one dimensional characters. I do agree that Soundwave from the getgo might've been a better choice over Blackout and a rave picking at humans over whatever that things was that was meant to be Scorponok, but again this is not a G1 movie. Bay isn't one that's going to care about continuity, lore or the past, we get some nods via certain lines, but Bay just cares about making action films, explosions and making money at the end of the day, plot, rich characters/ones that aren't one dimensional Bay isn't something Bay is exactly known for.B
Likewise I do think we could have done without the hackers and Bumblebee leaking over Agent Simmons part, the latter of which was juvinelle. I'm suprised there wasn't fart humor in there too. The things is this, it doesn't suprise me at the same time that it was in there as this was also gear to to and bring in new fans. Yes loyal or long-time fans follow the new series, comics etc but this DID have to appeal to a newer generation as well. I do think you could loose the hackers and nothing too much would be lost. I can also understand Optimus wanted to lead the fight away from the humans, but in this showcase video above a fight in a field compare to Mission City, well; it just isn't quite as exciting appealing. (Done better in ROTF forest fight, but that was because of the fight not the setting.)
Introducing TF characters with little or no development and killing them either in the next film - or even the same film is another Bay trait. Just like paper thin human characters.
Anyway what would you change or do differently in the first movie?